Salvation: Did Adam Die the Day He Ate the Fruit?
74The Expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Paradise
Salvation: Did Adam Die the Day He Ate the Fruit?
Introduction
Gen 2:17 KJVR But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
When Adam ate of the fruit he did not physically die that day, but how could that be? God said he would die that day!
Some scholars claim that Adam began to die physically that day by applying the often misquoted ‘…one day is with the Lord as a thousand years…’
Gen 3:6-7 KJVR And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened,and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
It seems inconsistent that on the very day that Adam and Eve ate of the fruit they received the knowledge of good and evil immediately ‘…the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked…’ but apparently it was hundreds of years before they died.
If God Said Adam would Die that day, then Adam Died that Day!
Paradise Lost
The death Adam experienced due to the fall was 'Spiritual Death' not physical death, that entailed being cast out from the presence of God . Therefore the purpose of Christ's death on the cross was to destroy 'Spiritual Death' thus enabling 'Man' to be reconciled and restored to fellowship with the Father.
In my opinion, physical death was never the enemy or the issue, because physical death does not separate the believer from the Father. On the contrary the believer is ushered into the greater plan of God for His 'Ekklesia'.
Conclusion
Joh 11:25-26 KJV Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Jesus promised believers they would never die!
Joh 5:24 KJV Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Since Christians have continued to physically die over the past 2000 years it is obvious that Jesus’ mission was to destroy ‘Spiritual Death’.
What do you think?
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Debradoo
Thank you for your comment.
OK, this makes sense. I did not remember the scripture mentions they would die this day" I thought it referred to spiritual death as well as physical death. When they disobeyed God, they put an expiration date on their lives. Great points! Voted up
2besure
Thank you for your comment and your vote.
Hi :)
A well-written and interesting hub, but ...
This is a subject that I have discussed with others and, with all due respect, the fact is that, in this story, God said that Adam and Eve would die ~ and they didn't.
Other believers have also told me that Adam and Eve only died a 'Spiritual Death' on that day.
But how do they know?
How do you know?
I shall admit, here, that I am agnostic and I think that the story of Adam and Eve is purely allegorical, but, all doubters are going to wonder about this and may perhaps feel that this answer simply will not suffice.
Trish_M
Thank you for your comment; I really appreciate you taking the time to read my Hub and to share your thoughts on the subject.
In my opinion God cannot lie, if God said that Adam would die that day then Adam died that day.
Gen 5:5 KJV And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
However you are correct in saying that Adam did not die that day, that is if you consider physical death to be the only type of death, and is the death referred to here, because we are told that Adam lived for 930 years.
So did God get it wrong? No.
Adam died spiritually that day, spiritual death is not the expiry of a Man's spirit or soul, but alienation from God through disobedience.
The result of physical death is that we cease to function in the environment that we previously communicated and participated in. The Scriptures tell us that Adam was cast out of the Garden, his fellowship with God, who is Spirit, and all the privileges he enjoyed had come to an end, this was the result of his disobedience.
I believe the New Testament explains the Old Testament and we can learn about spiritual death, also known as sin death, in the Gospels and Epistles.
1Co 15:21-22 KJV For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Due to Adam's disobedience all mankind is spiritually dead, but don't be too hard on Adam, all mankind would have failed the same test Adam was given.
2Co 5:-19 KJV To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
God provided His Son to restore mankind to fellowship by removing the sin death, through His sacrifice on the Cross.
Joh 11:26 KJV And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
The reason I believe that Adam really existed is because the Scriptures record the genealogy of Christ all the way back to Adam in Luke 3.
I hope I have answered your questions, please visit my Hubs again and I welcome any comments you make.
Hi Searchinsany :)
Thank you for responding ~ much appreciated, even if we don't seem to be on the same page :)
I am going to throw a curve ball in here. one point everyone seems to be missing is according to Genesis 3:22 the reason adam did not live forever has to do with the tree of life
22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever
not saying I understand it fully but seems to me the tree of life is what was causing Adam and Eve to not die physically. look at Revelation 22:14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Timlove
Thank you for visiting my Hub and for your comment.
In my opinion, Genesis 3:22 does not actually state whether Adam had ever eaten of the Tree of Life prior to the fall, although it was not forbidden.
Adam was a perfect creation and his life in the Garden was sustained by unbroken fellowship with the Lord.
Adam suffered spiritual death on the day he ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Jesus was victorious over spiritual death and by Grace through Faith 'man' is restored to fellowship.
Jesus is the antitype of the Tree of Life; He is the Resurrection and the Life…John 11:25; John 14:6.
Just thought I would chime in as well - thanks for writing.
Eve sinned and Adam followed - yet God still held Adam responsible for the actions of his wife (Eve) just as he holds husbands (who are Christians) responsible for their wives actions now....
Either case - when they partook of the "tree" they died in the spiritual sense. They did know of sacrifices and they had taught their children the right way to (or back to) God. Although we are never told that Adam or Eve found their way back to the lord.
When anyone at all is born now, they are born into sin and unless they accept Jesus Christ as Lord they will die in Sin, judged by the Law verses those who are saved being seen and or Judged by grace and mercy. The SIN NATURE is in ALL of us and until Jesus is accepted by us in our hearts it would remain (Romans 10:9-13).
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preacher2003
Thank you for reading my Hub and for leaving an excellent comment.
You may find interesting my Hub 'The Atonement: Full and Fulfilled in Christ'
Thank you.
Of course, I think you are on to something here, Searchinsany!
Indeed, it does seem that the Almighty was referring to a spiritual death.
Having said that, for those who do not want to accept that observation, they may relish the idea that when the Almighty said that to Him one day is like unto 1,000 years and 1,000 years are like unto one day, that Adam's physical body did die within the 1,000 year frame-work, so one could say that in the eyes of the Almighty, Adam's physical body did die that very day.
Best wishes and God's speed - L.R.
Lone Ranger
Thank you for your visit and as always for an interesting contribution. The comment you make is a view held by many believers, in my opinion 2 Peter 3:8 is often taken out of context.
‘…that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day…’ In context, Peter simply told the scoffers that to the God of eternity, time has less relevance or sense of urgency to Him than it does to mortal man who has a very limited life span. God would fulfil His plan and purpose according to His good pleasure. Peter wasn’t laying out a specific formula for calculating God’s clock, Peter used ‘as’ not ‘is’.
‘…the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked…’...Gen 3:7. Since it was the very day Adam ate of the fruit that he received the knowledge of good and evil, just as God had said, I have no difficulty believing Adam would also die that day. However, according to many commentators it was 930 years (not a 1000) before he died.
‘…for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die…’…Gen 2:17. Adam died spiritually that day, meaning that when he was cast out of the Garden of Eden his special spiritual relationship with God ended. Only by Christ dying on the cross could ‘man’ be reconciled to God.
Eph 2:5 KJV Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Debradoo 14 months ago
Well, yes, it was spiritual death that came about on the day Adam ate the fruit. And yes, Jesus died so that our spirits would live again. If we refuse Him, not believe in Him and His sacrifice and resurrection, we remain spiritually dead. But, remember, whatever happens in the spiritual will affect the natural .. Always.